woo isp ipv6 !

The monkey house has ipv6 – It was a bit of a shock and i know where i went wrong ut dealing with the lack of specific instructions via the isp and voodoo router commands.

As i had tunnels before (not reliable)  i also had to about:config and de-list certain sites for ipv6 to work.

It is a bit intermittent so i might have to change isp’s.   Next job servers.

 

ipv6 gah or isp ipv6 is horrible

I requested ipv6 for the monkey house, that was simple getting it work well i made mountain out of a molehill.

My trouble began when i had neighbourhood prefix and pd prefix both different

  • 20xx::xxxx:/64
  • 20xx::yyyy:etc/48

Female fortune teller with crystal ball, mouth open, portrait

The x address is the public interface and the y address is the lan assignment secret decoder rings help here and ipv6 existed and then disappeared.

I restarted many times, Fortunately ipv4 remained working. although ipv6 config is an voodoo art.  As i needed new routers not many of you will even be able to get ipv6 with new routers.

Eventually i got something to work which remained up, ipv6 is slow bonding from the isp’s infrastructure, so while ipv4 is up within seconds  pv6 takes a couple of minutes to connect and it say unable to connect to google if you try to ping it from anywhere during this stage

I had a problem with an ipv4 router  which means internally the monkey houses office lan still cant get ipv6. but our mail hosts in the zoo do.

So eventually i win part of the war.

Ipv6 on the local lan comes with issues i cannot seem to do::1/631, yes 127.0.0.1:631 for printers nameservers can also end up not memorable eg 8.8.8.8* instead 2xxx::xxxx:yyyy:2: aaaa:bbb:cccc:dddd.

I can not remember that.

Ipv6 has some merit and when ipv4 does exhaust its supply it will need help becoming the protocol after all who still uses spx  protocol.  Yes it has autoconfig but that assumes you do not run a network.

So its not a replacement for ipv4 and rfc1918 ranges.

*free banana skin if know where this goes or does – collect from the zoo.

No but you really did not give me any choice – amazon being deceptive.

Amazon Prime is something amazon wants me to have and as a occasional customer since 1998  i feel that ‘prime’ adds a cost to items (my blog) that then makes then not a bargain in economics terms after all the market is not just amazon.

Due to an item i need to expand because of an ipv6 problem (my blog) i unwillingly decided to expand one thing with something* and amazon are  fast compared (my blog) with some firms.  so i can do this quickly when the monkey house is closed.

I doubt i could find one on the high street either.   So get to the checkout and i can see no option to not but sign up to amazon prime and i was willing to pay for delivery.    Having clicked on something deceptive that i thought might do that  but did not and i could not go back** and so had one new blog post to start with.

I have to now cancel prime and have put in my calender as a reminder but i might as well look at this (my blog) in music form so it is blog worthy.  I am still not convinced that prime is  for me.   It’s shady nature also makes me feel conned despite the free postage.

Calendered, cancel bookmarked and i think i am ready.

*not essential to know what the thing does  ** i could have aborted the saleand  logged out and started again.

Netflix support is awful

tube recycle those 1’s and 0’s

ipv6 (my blog) is the thing that will ‘save the world’ so long as netflix (my blog) does not use it.  Imagine your televisions gets an update to use ipv6 (my blog) but netflix then decides the ipv6 in use is bad.   Yep no netliix streaming for you.

I doubt you can downgrade to something that works on such a device (not a pc).

The level 1 person i had was an idiot (almost gleeful with the reply) so much so i cancelled the subscription on the spot.   If these geniuses continue to think  the way they do then ipv6 is not a replacement for the consumer.

I might be experimenting with ipv6 and not be an genius on it but suppose i had no idea except that the tv can do netflix and then it could not.  A phone company would say its not there fault, but a problem for the streamer to fix, the subscriber is stuck in the  middle.

While my ipv6 range might have been deemed bad for netflix everybody else seemed to accept the traffic.

Something else the ipv6 evangelists fail to mention.

a hiccup on the route to ipv6 [fritzed]

Sisyphus is still a role model

I bought a router [part 2] (my blog) and it jailed our network hosts into a nat prison.Even the router could not relay stuff to our mail hosts and that was with some tinkering, As to ipv6 well it had it but it failed the ipv4 test.

Sigh while it kind of routed ala pubic ip/28 <->  192.168.x..x it was pretty much unusable doing  anything else.

I guess it is a router for the masses not the professionals.   I will miss my dd-wrt router (my blog) when it is time to put it into emergency backup mode and once i have the correct solution (possibly a few attempts).

You might think i am crazy for finding average routers too crippled but that’s the fact.

ubiquity network kit

Is something the monkey house bought and something I like since ddwrt and variants is in a process of change (good luck navigating that) and the cost of something to put it on was crazy.  Ubiquity was cheaper by 130% and apparently openlede compatible.

I also like the fact that your not forced to buy wireless since that changes a lot.

ipv4 support is good, ipv6 support is more geeky being no gui for ipv6 yet so mysterious commands need to be set by console.  Since our ghetto ipv6 setup (my blog) was not that good its not a huge disaster although ipv6 does need to be reliable and done on routers rather than tunnels.

Overall it is early days but i see no downsides although the lack of ipv6 gui does make it an more tricky configure, it appears without a native isp tunnlels are configured correctly but unreliable consistently while it might think it is up (ping ok on router) it will not route packets to the lan clients.

So dont use tunnels for ipv6.

 

a second go at ipv6 – will it or wont it…

Dual stack is interesting and if you have both and remove one well your not going to visit that website until your dns cache clears.  Anyhow that is testing for you.  Something the ipv6 zealots will not tell you.

I did buy an ipv6 book which was not that illuminating but made me try again.  It was boring and not a really fun review to write about in the future.

The ghetto setup (my blog) stopped working and on my weekly network stop / start started working again.  I have no idea why, although i lost the server ipv6 range and also got back the separate lan router router range which boldy broke and also reset it self.

So ghetto ipv6 is sketchy but at least it was not my config was not wrong.

One stupid problem i had i made myself was one website of ours did not work after getting a working site.  Having visited a library and confirmed it was me and probably an web config issue i tracked it down to the /etc/hosts file where i had put an entry in and then left it.

I can call myself an moron for that but i was testing. and it did make me laugh nice to know /etc/hosts works..

I have also ordered some new routers and they can do isp ipv6 opposed to tunnels**,  Our oldest outers here in the zoo are eight years old and while they work i am quite sure things have moved on a fair bit so it might be noticed by a few people for other reasons.

I am sure your really excited  about this* and i will write more in part 3.

*well maybe not. **nothing to do with civil engineering

diving (eventually) into ipv6 but into a pool with no water

Weee (my blog) appears to have grown too big to dive professionally and seems a point to start the moral being children should not be in olympics teams like usa gymnastics can attest to more on that in the future.

So sport aside in this and that you probably may have noticed something.

Beneath the yes it exists is a layer of consultants and salesmen looking at vendor lock in, want a manual ? they dont exist, and voodoo like console commands on supported routers .

Sure ip4 also has per configuration settings, but i dont know the ipv6 equivalent settings are but i do expect to buy a basic router and expect it to work as such without having to engage an army of gurus and salesmen getting involved ipv6 appears to be voodoo and never mentioned by these firms.

It is not my problem but if i cant buy it and switch things on without an army of ipv6 guris  how is ipv6 usage supposed to increase ? Maybe a fairy will turn it on by magic and everything will be ipv6 native.

2018 will be the year the monkey house tried to go dual stack ipv4 and ipv6, – we need new routers – internal and external since i do not want to run nsa approved firmware i went looking at routers supporting openwrt,dd-wrt (deceptive site clones ahoy) which says all is not well with open firmware.

Sisyphus is still a role model

That got me to LEDE which is the reincarnation of embeded linux. it seems openwrt and dd-wrt are not being developed if so your on your own

I still have to buy an external router and do ipv6 things so there’s a cost to implementing ipv6, our poe wifi thing (my blog) appears to be a stumbling block so internal ipv6 is harder than external ipv6 because of tunnelling.

Brand name routers are out for being horrendous in cost so i went down the rabbit hole – pfsense routera too expensive, but nice, microtik need microshit windows to configure meh i would have to wait for snow in hell first before i think that is a good idea.

Internally ubiquiti look good and the most expensive component is the wifi [a c protocol support and n] It seems i will be buy ubiquity and run our existing ipv4 extender.with it The outside connection is easier if pricey

I have also replaced an idiot switch (my blog) to begin with so that has helped as the speed was going from 1gb to 100mb and then back again.

Overall open router hardware is a bit of a mess although the lede project is going in the right direction.

Would i buy a new brand name consumer grade router – no.

Ipv6 in part of the zoo’s real world is a bit broken  since the zoo currently has a ghetto ipv6 range of addresses and works on the one router

The ipv6 community was not that helpful how dare i downgrade to ipv4 because some sites only work with it despite supporting ipv6.

I am still not sure even if our isp would be willing to ipv6 reverse dns entries. I suppose you have to be one to get an answer.

ipv6 at this point does seem faster than ipv4 but then it has less load on it now.

Getting rfx 4941 slaac privacy extensions that’s

privext 2

in your network file ala

iface eth0 inet6 dhcp privext 2

Does not appear to work in linux with ipv4, although the screen shot in the entry says yes depending upon its mood (at the start it still gave me 20/20 with no reverse dnsI stil have no idea if our ipv6 addresses are changing  and use on our internal lans so ipv4 does still have advantages.

Please do not tell the ipv6 gurus that.

I would love to experiment further with ipv6 but my isp will not do dual stack, which means i lose all of the zoo’s existing servers for something that i have little experience in.  As most of you still have ipv4 it makes a forced change to ipv6 fool hardy.

ipv6 routers are a little easier to get but i would rather do both that one or the other.

So to do ipv6 here in the zoo

  1. ipv6 connection
  2. point 1 needs a new telecom end user kit
  3. another router to handle ipv6, or  a switch to use one i have already. Possible one extra ethernet card

Ghetto ipv6 is possible by me

  1. new telecom end user kit
  2. another tunnel but since that is not the same isp as we have now some ipv6 validators will think its a vpn.

So i am unable to dual stack easily.

Ideally

  1. our original isp would support both v4 and v6 using new modem

So  i think it is best to give up and just run ipv6 on our internal lan although not many use it.

But i did not stop here and created yet another tunnel for a zoo’s server unfortunately it seems to not route on linux and ipv6 takes precedence so it means that it seems i can only run with ipv4 at the present time without buying some hardware as listed above.

This is my fault if your an ipv6 guru but its not easy its ping -6 nmap -6 ip -6 and secretive societies of here was something that may  work.

I have a working network spec for servers except i cant route data with radvd which conflicts with the ghetto lan on server hardware and probably a gateway issue.

As to whether my tunnel can send email is not a question i want to know if it fails to then like it not the ipv6 config is certainly not real internet and another reason to not implement ipv6.

Sisyphus is still a role model

End user sites that stopped working instant ink (my blog)  with dual stack and netflix which did not like that the isp switched. so plenty of problems still even with glitch fixing.

Hardware wise a tv (my blog) could not get an ipv6 address, then again if it had i do doubt the drm would allow it to show anything.  Big catch 22 there

Then a week in my clients on our zoo lan stopped getting ipv6 via the tunnel.  Not that it really mattered.

I did buy a book (my blog) about ipv6 via an ipv4 online bookshop.  I will let you think on the irony there.

The moral here is do not believe ipv6 gurus and evangelists that ipv6 is easy or ready for the mainstream – Panasonic (my blog) and others can probably prove that to you.

Panasonic thoroughly shit at standards

In this (my blog) i ranted about crappy dect phones, another panasonic thing we have access to is a television (my blog) one visit discovered that it is only ipv4 capable, so if you have an ipv6 (my blog) network your going to get no netflix unless they support ipv6.

Panasonic it appears make for now but not the future.  One might deem both items as early e waste candidates.   If you invest in paanasonic then good luck to you.

As to the economics of using panasonic well good luck on that.